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        • THE WAY BACK TO EDEN
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        • THE WHICH SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS
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        • IF ONLY 144,000 TRANSLATED, WHAT CHANCE FOR YOU?
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        • THE KINGDOM OF JUDAH, THE SIFTING OF THE NATIONS
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        • THE HATED JEWS OF TODAY NOT THE ADMIRED JEWS OF TOMORROW
        • THE FATE OF ASSYRIA AND THE TRIUMPH OF THE CHURCH
        • IS WORLD WAR II YET TO BE FINISHED, SAINTS YET TO BE DELIVERED?
        • WHICH NATIONS WILL DISARM, AND WHY?
        • A WORLD WIDE STIR, AND ITS RESULTS
        • A ROD THAT SPEAKS CALLS FOR REFORMATION AND CREATES GREAT CONTROVERSY
        • ON THE THRESHOLD OF A NEW WORLD IN THE SIGHT OF THE OLD
        • A TRODDEN-DOWN KINGDOM RISING TO PROMINENCE AND PEACE
        • "SEVEN WOMEN TAKE HOLD OF ONE MAN"
        • THE OLD FAMILY TREE
        • FATHERS PREFERRED DECEIT THEIR CHILDREN GIVEN GRACE
        • THE DISPERSION, THE TIME, AND THE DELIVERANCE
        • THE SPOILER'S SPOILS TAKEN BY THE LAME AND THE WEAK
        • NATIONS SEE EDOM PERISH, DESERT BLOSSOM, AND A HIGHWAY TO ZION
        • "COMFORT YE, COMFORT YE, MY PEOPLE"
        • THE END OF YOUR LONG AND TRYING JOURNEY
        • IF NOT AWAKENED NOW, THEY MAY SLEEP FOREVER
        • CHILDREN OF THE BARREN MORE THAN THE CHILDREN OF THE BEARING WOMAN
        • ZION IN THE HEIGHT OF HER GLORY
        • THE FRUITS OF THE ANOINTED ONES
        • ZION'S REWARD AND GOD'S MIGHTY EFFORT
        • THE YEAR OF HIS REDEEMED-- THE SIGN OF THE DAY OF VENGEANCE
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        • THE MIGHTY ESAUS AND THE UNPRETENTIOUS JACOBS
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        • JACOB'S TIME OF TROUBLE; JUDAH AND ISRAEL GOING HOME
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        • WHAT IS RELIGION? DOES IT PROFIT BOTH NOW AND HEREAFTER?
        • LIFE IS BUT WHAT WE MAKE IT
        • IS RELIGION SOMETHING LIVING AND GROWING? OR IS IT SOMETHING DEAD AND WANING?
        • FIVE MEN SLAY AFTER ONE SETS A MARK
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        • THE LORD'S ANSWER TO THE INQUIRER OF GOD
        • ONE SHEPHERD TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT A MULTITUDE OF THEM FAILED TO ACCOMPLISH
        • THE CHRISTIAN'S LAND RENOVATION AND HEART OPERATION
        • THE DEAD AND THE LIVING MAKE UP THE WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; GOG FAILS
        • A FEAST THAT ROLLS AWAY THE VEIL, OPENS THE GATES, AND CAUSES DEATH TO FLEE AWAY
        • LEWDNESS FLEES AWAY-- REVIVAL AND REFORMATION WIN
        • THE TIME OF "THE TIME OF TROUBLE," AND THE REWARD OF ONE'S FAITH IN GOD
        • REVIVAL AND REFORMATION PRECEDE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY
        • BE A NEW THRESHING INSTRUMENT IN THE HAND OF GOD
        • UPSHOOTS, NOT OFFSHOOTS
        • THE WAY THE KINGDOM IS TO COME
        • THE REVELATION--WHAT IS IT?
        • WHERE DO THE SEALS AND TRUMPETS BEGIN AND END?
        • THE CHRONOLOGICAL SETTING OF THE REVELATION CHAPTER BY CHAPTER--THE SUMMARY
        • THAT WHICH IS TO BE DURING THE SIXTH TRUMPET WHILE PROBATION STILL LASTS
        • SATAN'S TRIPLE DEFEAT BRINGS THE "TIME OF TROUBLESUCH AS NEVER WAS"
        • A WORLD GOVERNMENT AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO IT
        • THE FINAL WORLD GOVERNMENT COMMUNISTIC OR CAPITALISTIC, WHICH?
        • BAPTISM AND THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS-- THE GATE TO THE CHURCH
        • THE LAODICEANS PERISH WITHOUT THE "MESSAGE TO THE LAODICEANS"
        • CHILDREN BORN TO A LEWD MOTHER BRING PEACE AND HAPPINESS IN THE HOME
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        • TRUTH'S DECREE ON EARTH IS THE DECREE IN HEAVEN
        • THE REVIVAL AND REFORMATION CROWNED WITH THE PURIFICATION
        • THE RESTORATION AND THE TIME
        • IF A MAN DIES HOW SHALL HE LIVE AGAIN? AND WHAT SHALL HE BE LIKE?
        • THE CLEANSING OF THE SANCTUARY, WHEN AND HOW DONE?
        • IF YOU WERE NOTHING, WHAT WOULD YOU CHOOSE TO BE?
        • THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
        • DEMOCRACY, COMMUNISM, CATHOLICISM, OR PROTESTANTISM--WHICH RULES NEXT?
        • HISTORY AND PROPHECY, COMMANDMENTS AND STATUTES--THE BIBLE
        • FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF EDUCATION
        • RIGHTEOUSNESS BY GRACE, RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH, AND THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST
        • THE EDUCATION OF CHRISTIAN YOUTH-- WHERE AND HOW OBTAINED
        • CURRENT EVENTS, THE PALESTINE SITUATION, AND HOW CLOSE THE SEPARATION?
        • THAT WHICH IS TO BE DURING THE TIME OF THE END
        • A DEAD TOP, AN OFFSHOOT OR AN UPSHOOT--WHICH?
        • THE SIGNS OF CHRIST'S SECOND COMING, OR THE SIGNS OF THE KINGDOM--WHICH?
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  • THE DAVIDIAN DREAMER

The lies and tall tales told about the Shepherd's Rod message and those who believe


 Over the years certain ideas and stories have been commonly shared by leading men of the church and those who follow their direction with little or question. These have been spoken to any and all people who are reading and studying the additional message sent to God's last day people. While these are likely not the only things spoken, they are so common that they must be addressed to clear God's second message to His Church, which is of course you and I.

#1- "People who believe the shepherd's rod think that one day God will tell them to kill all other Seventh Day Adventists."

ANSWER- THIS IS A LIE. Anyone and everyone is welcome to read the entire message on this website for free. Those people who repeat this lie are never able to tell anyone which book and what page of the book says this. But they want everyone to believe it, despite there being no evidence.
 When I began to have bible studies about the Shepherd's Rod message several people came to me personally fearing the worst and one in particular told me that he hasn't read all of the message but he did read a little bit and that he could tell that somewhere in there it can be seen, although possibly hidden, that killing SDA church members is in the message. I thanked him for his concern and decided in my own mind that if ever found such a teaching I would show everyone and warn everyone. That day never came. I have read, as have many others, every word written and published by Victor Houteff. Nowhere in any book does anything he say come close to such a thing. After all, Christ would not teach us to break the commandment that says "Thou shalt not kill". And The Shepherd's Rod message is the second testimony of Jesus Christ to us, the Seventh Day Adventists!

#2- "Shepherd's Rods want to take Adventists away from the church"

ANSWER- THIS IS TWO LIES IN ONE SENTENCE.
  a) There is no such thing as a "Shepherd's Rod" except it be a stick of wood that a shepherd would use in his work, or it being the name of a Message sent by God. This is used to make it sound like a believer is no longer a Seventh Day Adventist, which is the first lie. The thousands of us that have read the message ourselves all know that it is sent to every Seventh Day Adventist, including us of course. To say a believer is a "shepherds rod" is the same as saying a person is a "spirit of prophecy" which I'm sure you agree is, a ridiculous thing to say. Therefore, there is no such change to take place. The change that DOES take place is that once any one of us begin feeding on spiritual meat instead of milk we naturally grow and become stronger in the Scriptures, stronger in the Spirit of Prophecy, and stronger in our relationship with God.
  b) There is no teaching whatsoever that Seventh Day Adventists are to leave or be taken out of our Mother Church. In fact, Hosea chapters 1 and 2 are proof positive that we are not only to stay within the SDA Church, but that it absolutely IS WHERE ALL ADVENTISTS BELONG AND SHOULD BE. As an american it was exciting to find the United States in Bible Prophecy when I began studying the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation! How much MORE EXCITING it is to see the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Bible prophecy!! To see evidence that you and I are exactly where we should be, and that God has not only raised up our Church to do the greatest work in Earth's history working hand in hand with God is a beautiful Truth that means everything! God be Praised!
 Unfortunately, so far the leadership of God's Church will not read it to see this for themselves. They have chosen to say this is from the devil himself with no proof. I pray one day they will be more open and willing to read for themselves like the Spirit of Prophecy and the Bible says we should do!

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